Please be more specific
You Can't Beat Something With Nothing
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Please be more specific
This nonsense is largely myth if you look into it for more than five minutes (and that twenty-five cent "quote" of yours appears to be a total invention).
Quetzal
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The source of your heavily biased and racist information, please.
Do you deny that Margaret Sanger founded Planned Parenthood?
How about the following quote from Sanger found on Wikipedia?
"we do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population and the minister is the man who can straighten out that idea if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members."
SOURCE
Quetzal
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I deny any and all statistics or theories you claim to be fact until you provide a reputable source for them. This is "Debate 101" stuff.
Two things: Yeah, how about it; and two, you're a sucker for buying into the fake quote you trotted out like a prize nut.
Sanger's entire comments that you selectively cite make perfect sense: She didn't want to exterminate the black population and didn't want them thinking she did. None of this is hard to find out or understand.
HERE is a map showing the location of PP abortion clinics in black communities.
Not too many people deny that PP abortion clinics are in poor black neighborhoods.
https://www.guttmacher.org/media/evidencecheck/provider-location.html
Even if Planned Parenthood's clinics were mostly to be found in minority-dominant neighborhoods it would prove nothing more than the economic disparities that make PP the only viable option to these women. But that's a discussion no conservative seems interested in having: Pocketbook issues freak out evangelicals if it's suggested actual money can solve some problems.
I recently asked a question that no one on TOL wanted to touch: If raising your taxes guaranteed fewer abortions, would you support this?
If they can't get birth control or a breast exam anywhere else, where are these women supposed to go? Nobody else other than PP seems interested at all in helping them.
You can't beat something...with nothing.
Even if Planned Parenthood's clinics were mostly to be found in minority-dominant neighborhoods it would prove nothing more than the economic disparities that make PP the only viable option to these women. But that's a discussion no conservative seems interested in having: Pocketbook issues freak out evangelicals if it's suggested actual money can solve some problems.
I recently asked a question that no one on TOL wanted to touch: If raising your taxes guaranteed fewer abortions, would you support this?
If they can't get birth control or a breast exam anywhere else, where are these women supposed to go? Nobody else other than PP seems interested at all in helping them.
You can't beat something...with nothing.
gcthomas
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The 'weeds' comment appears to be fabricated to undermine Sanger.
See http://quotefail.com/quote/margaret-sanger-colored-people-are-human-weeds-and-need
The eugenics comment doesn't appear to be true either, given that Sanger was trying to improve their economic prospects be giving black women the ability to restrict family size.
No, here goal was to exterminate as many as possible from the black population. She didn't want the blacks to know about it as she was doing it.
Sanger embraced Malthusian eugenics. She founded "The Birth Control Review" in 1917. The magazine published pro-eugenic articles constantly.
You should read the stuff that was printed in those magazines.
Completely at odds with the facts and historical record. You're the guy who leans on fabricated quotes to make a case. Your ignorance of this issue is not surprising.
Which is actually a very different issue from a concerted effort to exterminate the black race in America.
No one's ever denied her involvement in eugenics, but, again, Sanger never supported any kind of campaign to wipe out blacks in the United States or anywhere else. If the best you can do is some George Grant-style crapola I don't think you have much to offer this conversation.
Quetzal
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I am not surprised.
Quetzal
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Not what I asked for, try again.
jeffblue101
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Not true at all, I already gave a response. "No amount of "good" can ever cover up PPs heinous crimes. Secondly when we defund PP that 500 million in taxpayer money will be realloacted to healthcare clincs that dont have to resort to killing the unborn and selling off their body parts to pad their bottom line."
No need to raise a single penny in taxes as half a billion dollars is more than sufficant to take care of women who need access to breast exams in urban communities.
jeffblue101
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Define what you consider to be "reputable"
Quetzal
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A third party academic source or a verified agency that handles statistics would be a start.
gcthomas
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Generally not a private organisation advocating for one viewpoint with a strong interest it.
jeffblue101
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Okay fair enough for the rest of this thread dicussion any statistic provided by the guttmacher institute , a private organisation advocating a strong intrest on one side of the abortion debate, will be treated as an unreliable source.