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17 Year Old Shot And Killed By Cop
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i think the kid had proven that he was dangerous:
So this cop couldn't overpower a stoned, tazed 17 yr old?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
remember when the non-lethal weapon was the nightstick?
maybe the perp wound up with a cracked skull or broken bones, but they lived to regret their stupidity
brinny
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What would you have suggested this 17 yr old do? Call 911 on the officer because of the malfunctioning and blinding police officer's headlights that this police officer was already aware of before this kid ever entered the picture?
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
apparently not :idunno:
heck, i taught 18 year old tenth graders in the inner city i wouldn't have wanted to tangle with, even though i had sixty pounds on them and it wasn't fat
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
cooperate with the routine traffic stop?
produce his license and registration when asked, as he was required to do?
Provide his license and registration when asked. Then explain to the officer that his headlights were blinding him. Then after leaving, make a report to the police departments captain.
Then live to tell about it and then perhaps petitioning the state to change the law about flashing headlights, since thats illegal in michigan.
brinny
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In the meantime, this officer's headlights are blinding other drivers.
An issue here, is that the officer ALREADY knew his headlights were faulty and blinding.
It almost appears that he was looking to create problems....
as if his foreknowledge of his blatant and dangerous negligence would cause problems, and a driver was BOUND to bring it to his attention.....
just wondering, how does a driver bring it to the attention of an officer that his headlights nearly blinded him?
By the way, that kid should NOT be dead.
gcthomas
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Ah, the universal insult. Can't you think of anything original?
How does that fit in with the discussion?
You can't make someone respect you. You can enforce discipline but not respect - got are an idiot of you think you can.
Bad teachers do not deserve respect and should not be in claims. Good teachers earn respect and are rewarded with cooperation from children.
Our own judgement is all any of us have: even if you do try to outsource the responsibility for your decisions, they are still your decisions.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
you're right
his parents should have warned him of the dangers of drugs, not allowed him to drive when stoned and taught him how to interact with cops during a routine traffic stop
Should he put out his headlights? Again, you know this is a fact from where? This badly written first person article that is not even able to be written from a first person perspective since the person didnt live to speak with them?
Oh no, you mean an officer actually pulls people over?
More running off of the imagination, you werent there. You have no facts about that, thats your insertion.
By telling him, after you produce your license and registration.
Well unfortunately when a kid resists arrest after refusing to give license and registration which is a requirement to drive, period, then assaults an officer all because you want 15 minutes of fame and had been spending the evening researching it, then it can happen.
Kid wanted a fight, he got what he went looking for and lost. Those are the actual known facts, not your emotionalism and imagination.
glorydaz
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The officer politely asked to see the kid's license. The kid should have complied. Since he didn't have his license on him, he should have apologized and accepted whatever lecture, warning or ticket the officer decided to give him.
When the officer explained his lights were on dim already, the kid could have mentioned they seemed bright, and let it go.
This stuff would never even be a problem if drivers didn't cop an attitude.....and they sure wouldn't be copping an attitude if they thought for even half a second how this very cop could be the one who answers their call for aid...either after being involved in a highway crash and they're laying bleeding in the middle of the road. Or when their home is broken into by some meth head who holds his family hostage. Or when their child gets abducted out of their front yard and the cop answers the amber alert and carries that child in his arms until the parents arrive.
No, not a one of these cop haters ever stop to use the brain God gave them until they're in need of help themselves. It makes me sick to even hear this nonsense.
:thumb:
brinny
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about the officer's blinding headlights (that this officer was ALREADY aware of, and consequently HE was violating not only the traffic safety laws, but was, from all accounts and purposes, deliberately endangering the safety and possible lives of drivers)
This officer should've been not only fired, but brought up on charges.
Your evidence?
brinny
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Was this officer NOT aware of these mal-functioning headlights?
The police department and the heads of it are at fault here also if they knew the headlights were malfunctioning and allowed this officer to drive a malfunctioning vehicle.
Yeah this story is waaay bigger than the senseless death of this kid.
That's how it appears thus far, unless there is something i missed?
glorydaz
Well-known member
Nonsense. They weren't even high beams. Even high beams don't "blind" people or they wouldn't be allowed to have them on cars. Good grief.
gcthomas
New member
Of course they are blinding - they is why you have to dip the beams when there is approaching traffic.
you said the officer needs to be charged for knowing his headlights were too bright, and that he willfully had them on bright, where is your evidence?
Even the lawyers of the parents of the kid arent alleging anything like that
brinny
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Nevertheless, if the officer knew about the malfunction and did not correct it, but continued driving that same vehicle, especially at NIGHT?! that alone is cause for him to be culpable, above and beyond any involvement with the 17 yr old.