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The whole world has been saved?
Saved, no, but he work is finished as God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV)! The order for it to be put to your account is trusting the Lord after hearing and believing the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV).
 

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But he who looks into the perfect law of liberty and continues in it, and is not a forgetful hearer but a doer of the work, this one will be blessed in what he does. (James 1:25)​
James is not written to anyone living in the dispensation of the grace of God. Those to whom James wrote to (the 12 tribes scattered abroad James 1:1 KJV) have a different gospel, requirements for salvation, timing of atonement for sins and inheritance. Their salvation was dependent upon them doing something by faith (James 2:18 KJV). Ampong those things are: Repent, and believe the gospel (Mark 1:4 KJV) by baptism of repentance for the remission of sins (Mark 1:4 KJV, Mark 16:16 KJV, Acts 2:38 KJV), keep the commandments (John 14:15 KJV, Matthew 23:2-3 KJV, John 15:5-10 KJV), endure to the end to be saved (Matthew 10:22 KJV), go through the trial of their faith (1 Peter 1:7 KJV), receiving the end of their faith, even the salvation of their souls (1 Peter 1:9 KJV). That salvation is of the grace that "should" come unto them (Acts 15:11 KJV, 1 Peter 1:10 KJV). They look forward that their sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord (which is at what many refer to as the second coming of the Lord (Acts 3:19-21 KJV).

That is not the righteousness of God without the law by the faith of Jesus Christ that is unto all and upon all them that believe (Romans 3:21-22 KJV). To be saved today is to trust the Lord believing the gospel of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) which is where the righteousness of God is revealed (Romans 1:16-17 KJV). Those who have trusted the Lord today having believed the gospel of Christ "are saved" presently (1 Corinthians 1:18 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:2 KJV,Ephesians 2:5 KJV, Ephesians 2:8 KJV). We get saved not by works of righteousness which we have done (Romans 4:4-5 KJV, Titus 3:4-7 KJV). We are baptized BY one Spirit into one Body (not by water for the remission of sins 1 Corinthians 12:13 KJV). We have now received the atonement (Romans 5:11 KJV).
 

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Saved, no, but he work is finished as God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them (2 Corinthians 5:21 KJV)! The order for it to be put to your account is trusting the Lord after hearing and believing the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV).

It sounds as Esposis is a Universalist?
 

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Don't be silly.

Same exact gospel.

Peter preached Jesus died for our sins.

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

...and that Jesus was raised from the dead.

Acts 5:31 God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might bring Israel to repentance and forgive their sins.

...and that we have to believe in Jesus.


Acts 10:43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

Paul taught the exact same thing.
 

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Galatians 1:23 They only heard the report: “The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy.

Did you read that? They said that PAUL is NOW preaching THE FAITH he once tried to destroy. Same gospel Peter and the other apostles taught before Paul, and now the gospel Paul the Galatians.
 

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That scripture Paul is speaking about the saved.
No, Paul is writing that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them.

Reconciliation is not salvation. Yes, PTL! God was in Christ, reconciling the world (including us Ephesians 2:11-12 KJV) unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them!

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

World reconciliation happened then, but never universal salvation!

No one is saved today unless and until they have had a moment in their life when they trusted the Lord believing the work that was accomplished that day as all sufficient to save them, and that is: that Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). It's called the gospel of Christ and IT is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16 KJV, no longer to the Jew first and also to the Greek, but to all men 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV). That is the word of reconciliation.
 

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No, Paul is writing that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them.

Reconciliation is not salvation. Yes, PTL! God was in Christ, reconciling the world (including us Ephesians 2:11-12 KJV) unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them!

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

World reconciliation happened then, but never universal salvation!

No one is saved today unless and until they have had a moment in their life when they trusted the Lord believing the work that was accomplished that day as all sufficient to save them, and that is: that Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). It's called the gospel of Christ and IT is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16 KJV, no longer to the Jew first and also to the Greek, but to all men 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV). That is the word of reconciliation.

We do not enter that grace without faith, living faith.

Romans 5:2 through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
 

heir

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Same exact gospel.

Peter preached Jesus died for our sins.

Acts 2:38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit.

...and that Jesus was raised from the dead.

Acts 5:31 God exalted him to his own right hand as Prince and Savior that he might bring Israel to repentance and forgive their sins.

...and that we have to believe in Jesus.


Acts 10:43 All the prophets testify about him that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins through his name.”

Paul taught the exact same thing.

Peter did not preach that "Christ died for our sins" at Pentecost. Peter preached:

Acts 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Paul preached:

1 Corinthians 15:3 KJV For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

Peter preached that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead to sit on David’s throne:

Acts 2:30 KJV Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;

Paul preached that Jesus Christ was delivered for our offences and raised again for our justification:

Romans 4:25 KJV Who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.


Peter preached the blotting out of sins at the second coming of the Lord

Acts 3:19-20 KJV Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:

Paul writes that we have NOW received the atonement:

Romans 5:11 KJV And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

Peter said it was spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began:

Acts 3:21 KJV Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Paul says it was a secret since the world began

Romans 16:25 KJV Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,


Peter said to Cornelius:

Acts 10:35 KJV But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Paul writes:

Titus 3:5 KJV Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


DIFFERENT!
 

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No, Paul is writing that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them.

Reconciliation is not salvation. Yes, PTL! God was in Christ, reconciling the world (including us Ephesians 2:11-12 KJV) unto Himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them!

2 Corinthians 5:19 To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

World reconciliation happened then, but never universal salvation!

No one is saved today unless and until they have had a moment in their life when they trusted the Lord believing the work that was accomplished that day as all sufficient to save them, and that is: that Christ died for our sins and that He was buried and rose again the third day (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). It's called the gospel of Christ and IT is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth (Romans 1:16 KJV, no longer to the Jew first and also to the Greek, but to all men 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV). That is the word of reconciliation.

In addition, ALL ARE CONDEMNED until they come to Jesus for salvation.

John 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son.
 

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Peter did not preach that "Christ died for our sins" at Pentecost. Peter preached:

Acts 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
Of course Peter preached that Jesus died for our sins.
Jesus is the Lamb.
Even John the baptizer knew and told people that Jesus was the Lamb of God who takes away sins.

John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!


The lamb’s blood was shed for the sins of the people in the old law.

Jesus even told Peter that he died for the sins of the world.

Luke 24:46 He told them, “This is what is written: The Messiah will suffer and rise from the dead on the third day, 47 and repentance for the forgiveness of sins will be preached in his name to all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
 

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Paul preached:

1 Corinthians 15:3 KJV For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;

Peter preached that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead to sit on David’s throne:

Acts 2:30 KJV Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Jesus is sitting on the throne. The throne of David was a throne over Israel. Jesus is ruling over Israel and over all principalities.
Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Philippians 2:9 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name,

Ephesians 1:21
far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.
 

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Acts 3:19-20 KJV Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
That scripture is Peter explaining how the Prophets in the Old Testament spoke of Jesus coming. Peter explains that Jesus came. He then tells the Jews to repent and turn to God so that their sins may be wiped out, that times of refreshing may come from the Lord…
THEN Peter explains how Christ must remain in heaven until he comes again---at the resurrection.
Those scriptures are about the JEWS NEEDING TO REPENT THEN.
How do you ever get they can repent when Jesus comes again? It will be too late by then.
When Jesus comes again it will NOT be to bear sin.
 

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Paul writes that we have NOW received the atonement:

Romans 5:11 KJV And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.

Peter said it was spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began:

Acts 3:21 KJV Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.

Paul says it was a secret since the world began

Romans 16:25 KJV Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,


Peter said to Cornelius:

Acts 10:35 KJV But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

Paul writes:

Titus 3:5 KJV Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;


DIFFERENT!
Not by works of righteousness which we have done is about these works, the PURIFICATION/CEREMONIAL WORKS:
The Burnt Offering; The Grain Offering; The Fellowship Offering; The Sin Offering; The Guilt Offering; Dietary Laws; Purification After Childbirth; Cleansing From Infectious Skin Diseases; Cleansing From Mildew; Discharges Causing Uncleanness; The Day of Atonement; Rules for Priests; The Sabbath; Firstfruits; The Passover and Unleavened Bread; Feast of Weeks; Feast of Trumpets; Feast of Tabernacles; Oil and Bread Set Before The LORD; the Sabbath Year; The Year of Jubilee; Circumcision.



THOSE are the works of righteousness that no longer matter.
Paul is NOT saying we no longer have to obey.
 

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Of course not. How could I? We are not saved by Jesus' death, otherwise the whole world would be saved. (John3:17)

Do you truly believe everyone is saved who could be saved?

If the work was finished at Jesus' death he would not have told his disciples to go into all the world to make more disciples.

You're not a Christian.
 

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The whole world has been saved?

We have to repent to be saved, not all will repent.

Revelation 9:20The rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk. 21Furthermore, they did not repent of their murder, sorcery, sexual immorality, and theft.

The goodness of God in saving us leads us to repentance. Cart before the horse.
 
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