God's will

[God's Truth]

There is only one glorious gospel. It is from Jesus and sealed by his covenanted blood when he walked the earth and died on this earth.

There is no other ONCE AND FOR ALL.

It is finished.

That was on the cross...not maligned by another gospel 'supposedly' given to Paul.

 

[heir]

Mark 8:29 KVJ And he saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am? And Peter answereth and saith unto him, Thou art the Christ.

The WHO of Jesus Christ is not the WHY of the cross. Show where Peter preached, "that Christ died for our sins" at Pentecost. I'm waiting. Show me the scripture!

 

[God's Truth]

Yet future!

Isaiah 9:7 Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. The zeal of the LORD of hosts will perform this.

Not future it is now.

Jesus is sitting on the throne over ALL now, including Israel, which is David's throne.

 

[God's Truth]

Peter preached a "repent" then and be identified with Christ in water baptism for the remission of sins (Acts 2:38 KJV)

Peter preached repent and so did Paul (Acts 26:20).
Cornelius was saved by the message from Peter BEFORE ANY WATER BAPTISM.

looking forward to the blotting out of their sins when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord (Acts 3:19-21 KJV) as in the second coming when the fountain will be opened unto them (Zechariah 13:1 KJV). SImple stuff for the saved, Bible believer!

Their sins are removed through Jesus JUST AS OURS IS.

 

[God's Truth]

Not by works of righteousness which we have done covers all works of ourselves!

Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

Ephesians 2:9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Salvation is the gift of God! By grace through faith (and that faith is the faith of Jesus Christ)!

Not of the PURIFICATION/CEREMONIAL WORKS, such as circumcision.

There is no such thing as a gospel that says not of obedience, and obedience will condemn you.

 

[God's Truth]

I believed and OBEYED Jesus and he saved me.

YOU keep saying that is a condemnation and not a saving.

 

[God's Truth]

The WHO of Jesus Christ is not the WHY of the cross. Show where Peter preached, "that Christ died for our sins" at Pentecost. I'm waiting. Show me the scripture!

I already showed you! Jesus is the LAMB. The lamb was killed to atone for sins! The lamb has to die for the blood.

 

[God's Truth]

Leviticus 17:11 For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one's life.


Exodus 29:38 “This is what you are to offer on the altar regularly each day: two lambs a year old. 39 Offer one in the morning and the other at twilight. 40 With the first lamb offer a tenth of an ephah of the finest flour mixed with a quarter of a hin of oil from pressed olives, and a quarter of a hin of wine as a drink offering. 41 Sacrifice the other lamb at twilight with the same grain offering and its drink offering as in the morning—a pleasing aroma, a food offering presented to the Lord.

42 “For the generations to come this burnt offering is to be made regularly at the entrance to the tent of meeting, before the Lord. There I will meet you and speak to you;


John 1:29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him and said, "Look, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world!


Hebrews 9:22
According to the Law, in fact, nearly everything must be purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

 

[steko]

Not future it is now.

Jesus is sitting on the throne over ALL now, including Israel, which is David's throne.

2Sa_3:10 To translate the kingdom from the house of Saul, and to set up the throne of David over Israel and over Judah, from Dan even to Beersheba.

 

[God's Truth]

2Sa_3:10 To translate the kingdom from the house of Saul, and to set up the throne of David over Israel and over Judah, from Dan even to Beersheba.

David's throne is a throne ruling over Israel. Jesus is ruling now over Israel, and even over the whole world and universe. Jesus is ruling over every rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.


Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Ephesians 1:21
far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.


Did you read that? Jesus is FAR ABOVE ALL, EVEN above every name---even above the name of David.

 

[steko]

David's throne is a throne ruling over Israel. Jesus is ruling now over Israel, and even over the whole world and universe. Jesus is ruling over every rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.


Matthew 28:18
Then Jesus came to them and said, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me.

Ephesians 1:21
far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come.


Did you read that? Jesus is FAR ABOVE ALL, EVEN about every name---even above the name of David.

None of that annuls the promise that Israel's Messiah will rule this earth from David's throne...Jerusalem, at His second coming.

Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

 

[God's Truth]

None of that annuls the promise that Israel's Messiah will rule this earth from David's throne...Jerusalem, at His second coming.

Mat 25:31 When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

That is when Jesus comes at the great white throne judgment.

Jesus will not rule on this earth here. Do you think a temple with an earthly throne will be made for him here?

When Jesus comes again it will be at the resurrection, the great while throne judgement.

When the earth is made a new---then Jesus will hand over the kingdom.

How is it you think Jesus will be ruling when the scriptures say he will hand over the kingdom to the Father?

 

[steko]

That is when Jesus comes at the great white throne judgment.

Obviously not.
The White Throne Judgement is the final judgement of all the dead of humanity.

The Judgement of the Sheep and the Goats is the judgement of the nations on earth when Christ returns and it is strictly a judgement as to how the nations treated His brethren.

At the White Throne, the heavens and the earth have fled away.

The Judgement of the Nations takes place in the Kidron Valley east of Jerusalem at Christ's return in the clouds with all His Holy Angels.

Jesus will not rule on this earth here.

Therefore you disagree with the Lord's promises that He will rule on this earth. One must also conclude, from your point of view, that Satan won planet earth and the that the Lord evidently left it for him to take over.

Do you think a temple with an earthly throne will be made for him here?

No. Actually.....He will build it.

Zec 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
Zec 6:13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

When Jesus comes again it will be at the resurrection, the great while throne judgement.

The White Throne Judgement is a judgement of all the dead.
Are you dead?
If you are resurrected at the White Throne Judgement, then you will be judged according to your works. Guess what! Your works won't measure up and you'll be cast in the lake of fire. The dead are dead.
I've already passed from death unto life and will not come into condemnation/judgement. All of my sins were payed for at the cross.

When the earth is made a new---then Jesus will hand over the kingdom.

How is it you think Jesus will be ruling when the scriptures say he will hand over the kingdom to the Father?

In the future, when Christ has brought all of creation into subjection, He will present it to the Father....as it says.

 

[God's Truth]

Obviously not.
The White Throne Judgement is the final judgement of all the dead of humanity.

That is when Jesus is coming back.

The Judgement of the Sheep and the Goats is the judgement of the nations on earth when Christ returns and it is strictly a judgement as to how the nations treated His brethren.

That is the final judgement.

At the White Throne, the heavens and the earth have fled away.

That is at the great white throne judgement.

The Judgement of the Nations takes place in the Kidron Valley east of Jerusalem at Christ's return in the clouds with all His Holy Angels.

...in the clouds, in the sky...that is the great white throne judgement.

Therefore you disagree with the Lord's promises that He will rule on this earth. One must also conclude, from your point of view, that Satan won planet earth and the that the Lord evidently left it for him to take over.

That is what you say, not me.

No. Actually.....He will build it.

Zec 6:12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the LORD:
Zec 6:13 Even he shall build the temple of the LORD; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both.

Jesus is not going to live on this earth again the way it is.

The White Throne Judgement is a judgement of all the dead.
Are you dead?

The great white throne judgement is not here yet!

Why in the world would you ask me if I was dead?

However, there will be people alive when Jesus comes again.

If you are resurrected at the White Throne Judgement, then you will be judged according to your works. Guess what! Your works won't measure up and you'll be cast in the lake of fire. The dead are dead.

God does not throw people in the lake of fire for being conformed to His Son.

I am saved and will meet Jesus in the air with the other saved. Then wrath will come upon the earth and on those who will be thrown in the lake of fire.

I've already passed from death unto life and will not come into condemnation/judgement. All of my sins were payed for at the cross.

God does not play favoritism. If you did evil you will be repaid for it.

Romans 2:10 10but glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, first for the Jew, then for the Greek. 11For God does not show favoritism. 12All who sin apart from the Law will also perish apart from the Law, and all who sin under the Law will be judged by the Law.…

Acts 10:34 Then Peter began to speak: "I now realize how true it is that God does not show favoritism

Colossians 3:23 Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord, not for human masters, 24 since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving. 25 Anyone who does wrong will be repaid for their wrongs, and there is no favoritism.In the future, when Christ has brought all of creation into subjection, He will present it to the Father....as it says.

 

[heir]

There is only one glorious gospel. It is from Jesus and sealed by his covenanted blood when he walked the earth and died on this earth.

There is no other ONCE AND FOR ALL.

It is finished.

That was on the cross...not maligned by another gospel 'supposedly' given to Paul.

The Lord preached a gospel called the gospel of the kingdom while on earth (Matthew 4:23 KJV). It did NOT include the fact that He would die, much less for anyone's sins! That gospel (Galatians 2:2 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJ) was given to Paul (Galatians 1:11-12 KJV). It was a mystery, kept secret since the world began and Paul tells us why (Romans 16:25-27 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV). That's at least two gospels, right there. There's no need to deny the facts!

 

[jamie]

The Lord preached a gospel called the gospel of the kingdom while on earth (Matthew 4:23 KJV). It did NOT include the fact that He would die, much less for anyone's sins! That gospel (Galatians 2:2 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJ) was given to Paul (Galatians 1:11-12 KJV). It was a mystery, kept secret since the world began and Paul tells us why (Romans 16:25-27 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV). That's at least two gospels, right there. There's no need to deny the facts!

Did Paul's gospel refute or negate the gospel of the kingdom? Or did Paul only preach what Jesus told him to preach?

Keep in mind that Jesus was speaking to Jews familiar with Isaiah 53.

 

[heir]

Did Paul's gospel refute or negate the gospel of the kingdom? Or did Paul only preach what Jesus told him to preach?

Keep in mind that Jesus was speaking to Jews familiar with Isaiah 53.

Jesus came unto His own and His own received Him not (John 1:11 KJV). They crucified the Lord, as they would have no man to rule over them, but Caesar (John 19:15 KJV). They did not believe that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of the living God. Only a little flock believed (Luke 12:32 KJV, they will sit on twelve thrones judging the twelve tribes of Israel in the regeneration Matthew 19:28 KJV). Since all of Israel did not repent ("every one" of them Acts 2:38 KJV, Acts 2:31 KJV, Acts 4:4 KJV), the world was ripe for God's judgment. At the stoning of Stephen, rather than judgment coming (the wrath to come), God saved the chief of sinners (Acts 9, 1 Timothy 1:13-16 KJV), His biggest enemy (Galatians 1:11-16 KJV), and through His apostleship/his "office" (Romans 11:13 KJV, 1 Timothy 2:7 KJV, 2 Timothy 1:11 KJV) by the unscheduled appearance(s)/revelations from the risen, glorified Lord Jesus Christ to and through him ~God began a mystery body, time, gospel (Romans 16:25-27 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV, 1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV, Galatians 1:11-12 KJV) and eternal destination; an inheritance (Ephesians 2:6 KJV) far above all heavens.

 

[heir]

Just making note that those who resist the truth of 1 Timothy 2:4-6 KJV also do not preach the gospel of the grace of God (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV). Curious, isn't it?

 

[jamie]

by the unscheduled appearance(s)/revelations from the risen, glorified Lord Jesus Christ to and through him...

So Paul preached the gospel of Jesus Christ as he was instructed to do. Grace and truth came through Jesus.

 

[heir]

So Paul preached the gospel of Jesus Christ as he was instructed to do. Grace and truth came through Jesus.

Paul did not preach the gospel of Jesus Christ as the power of God. That was preached in Mark 1:1 KJV. Paul's gospel (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) was a mystery Romans 16:25-27 KJV, 1 Corinthians 2:6-8 KJV) given by revelation of Jesus Christ (Galatians 1:11-12 KJV). Keep the facts straight!