Gun Control - a Liberal/Socialist Fantasy Solution

[bybee]

What about the unarmed sheep of Colorado or the armed sheep of Boston?


....nobody does it like the Americans

And they try to come here by the thousands!

 

[brewmama]

ahh its all the black fault ..... that makes sense now.

By the way what is the murder rate in Canada compared the the US?

oh yeah just in case you forget to check its 1.4 per 100,000 rather than 3.8 in the US

Maybe this gun control thing works?

Hmm, you raise an interesting point.
Percent of Canadian population that is black: 2.5%

Percent of US that is black:15.2%

DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.

Maybe, as you so astutely pointed out, guns aren't the main issue.

 

[ok doser]

Hmm, you raise an interesting point.
Percent of Canadian population that is black: 2.5%

Percent of US that is black:15.2%

DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.

Maybe, as you so astutely pointed out, guns aren't the main issue.

an inconvenient truth

 

[CherubRam]

If a person was in court for murder, and they used a spoon to commit the murder; the spoon would be classified as the "assault weapon." Some people do not realize how ignorant they are?

If you take away all of the guns, then only terrorist and criminals would have them. And if people had no guns, they could build bombs.

 

[rexlunae]

It could be, but, criminals have weapons! Terrorists have weapons!

In this case...a knife.

Only sheep don't have weapons....

I really wish you'd give this example some serious thought. Think how much worse this could have been if he'd had a legally-purchased gun.

 

[jgarden]

http://time.com/4137623/over-80-of-guns-used-in-mass-shootings-were-obtained-legally/

Of course the first thing following the California attack
has been a Liberal/Socialist whine about gun control,
all the way up to the idiot-president.

However, here are the facts:

(1) California has the toughest gun control laws in the USA.

(2) The weapons used (AR-15s) were acquired and possessed illegally.


(6) Gun control would not have disarmed the shooters or prevented the attack.

San Bernardino Shooting
Dec 5 2015
More Than 80 Percent of Guns Used in Mass Shootings Obtained Legally

The weapons used in this week's massacre in San Bernardino, California, were purchased legally, raising questions about how preventable gun violence is under current U.S. firearm laws.

Eighty-two percent of weapons involved in mass shootings over the last three decades have been bought legally, according to a database compiled by Mother Jones magazine that defines a mass shooting as taking the lives of at least four people in a public place. Using that criteria, Mother Jones found 73 mass shootings since 1982.

Authorities say Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, 27 — the shooters who killed 14 people and injured 21 others this week in San Bernardino — had two legally purchased .223 caliber assault-style rifles and two 9 mm semi-automatic handguns.

http://time.com/4137623/over-80-of-guns-used-in-mass-shootings-were-obtained-legally/

"The weapons used (AR-15s) were acquired and possessed illegally."
- Nazaroo

"The weapons used in this week's massacre in San Bernardino, California, were purchased
legally ... "
- Time Magazine

The OP must subscribe to the Donald Trump school of "FACT CHECKING!"

Never let it be said that a conservative ever allowed the facts to get in the way of a good rant.

In fact, 82% of all guns used for mass shootings in America over the last 30 years were obtained LEGALLY - it was the use of high-capacity magazines that 's illegal according to California laws.

Those who attended the event, however, were all remiss in not bringing their assault rifles to the Christmas Party - as a deterrent against their fellow workers!

 

[This Charming Manc]

I was surprised to find out that France has a firearms ownership rate of 31.7% and is a well armed country.

http://www.gunpolicy.org/firearms/region/france

Maybe people didn't take there guns to a rock concert or out for a meal in a bar. 1 in 3 people own guns they didn't save one perosn

No need for me to be exclusive here. The criminals, terrorists and nut-jobs are not exclusive. They will turn anything into a weapon! And Paris shows us that unarmed sheep get mowed down.

 

[This Charming Manc]

The Op has never been known to quote facts let alone check them.

The OP must subscribe to the Donald Trump school of "FACT CHECKING!"

The semiautomatic rifles and the handguns were obtained legally - it was the use of high-capacity magazines that 's illegal according to California laws.

In fact, more than 80% of all guns used in mass shootings in America were obtained legally!

 

[This Charming Manc]

Look at the poverty connection and you will get much closer to the truth.

Nice to see where you motivation is coming from you racist scumbag.

Hmm, you raise an interesting point.
Percent of Canadian population that is black: 2.5%

Percent of US that is black:15.2%

DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.

Maybe, as you so astutely pointed out, guns aren't the main issue.

 

[jgarden]

Hmm, you raise an interesting point.
Percent of Canadian population that is black: 2.5%

Percent of US that is black:15.2%

DOJ statistics show that between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.

Maybe, as you so astutely pointed out, guns aren't the main issue.

When "blacks" in America have access to the best lawyers that money can buy, they get the same results as their "white" counterparts!

Do you think OJ Simpson would have been acquitted if he haven't had the "dream team" representing him?

 

[brewmama]

Look at the poverty connection and you will get much closer to the truth.

Nice to see where you motivation is coming from you racist scumbag.

Facts hurt don't they, to the "if you bring up facts about a certain race you are a racist scumbag!" faction of unreality.

You're the one who brought it up!

 

[brewmama]

When "blacks" in America have access to the best lawyers that money can buy, they get the same results as their "white" counterparts!

Can you prove that?

Do you think OJ Simpson would have been acquitted if he haven't had the "dream team" representing him?

Absolutely, with all the blacks on the jury.

 

[ok doser]

Look at the poverty connection and you will get much closer to the truth.

there's an awful lot more whites in poverty than blacks:

 

[chair]

Terror attacks can be countered by trained armed people. See below. Having everybody armed is likely to create more problems than it will solve.

There have been many terrorist stabbing attacks here in Israel in the past few months. Many of the attackers have been killed or stopped by people with weapons. This is despite the fact that there is strict gun control in Israel. There are many armed soldiers and policemen around.

 

[CherubRam]

Terror attacks can be countered by trained armed people. See below. Having everybody armed is likely to create more problems than it will solve.

"Everybody" would mean anyone who can lawfully carry a weapon.

 

[CherubRam]

there's an awful lot more whites in poverty than blacks:

There has been many times I was not hired because I am a white male. The law requires that a certain percentage of nonwhite males be hired in America. White males are considered undesirable to hire, because they are more likely to ask for a raise, join a union, and ask for benefits.

 

[chair]

"Everybody" would mean anyone who can lawfully carry a weapon.

In teh US that means nearly everybody. And most people are not trained anywhere near enough to handle a complex real life situation.

 

[SabathMoon]

In teh US that means nearly everybody. And most people are not trained anywhere near enough to handle a complex real life situation.

So you invite the Muslims to slaughter us? We don't have as many deaths as the French.

Do you know how to prevent these combinational domestic-foreign terrorist attacks?

 

[Crucible]

In teh US that means nearly everybody. And most people are not trained anywhere near enough to handle a complex real life situation.

A person doesn't need to be 'trained'. It's gun vs transgressor, there's nothing complex about it.
Guns are just a tool, they are only 'murder devices' to murderers. To a moral person they are protection.

 

[CabinetMaker]

A person doesn't need to be 'trained'. It's gun vs transgressor, there's nothing complex about it.
Guns are just a tool, they are only 'murder devices' to murderers. To a moral person they are protection.

Spoken like a causality. Have you fired a gun at a target? Have you hit the target? Have you fired at a target when that target is shooting back at you? You should listen to Chair, he has had that training.