If I ran for President

[aCultureWarrior]

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And in the event of a foreign invasion?

Mainland invasion of the United States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainland_invasion_of_the_United_States

Have a military similar to a volunteer fire department?

Oh, I forgot: According Libertarian theory, if we leave evil alone (Nazi Germany and Japan during WWII and currently Islam) evil will leave us alone.

And prisons?

Notice how he just sidestepped what the quote said. Leaves two questions then decides to leave a non sensical opinion. Typical AcW.

And in the event of a foreign invasion? Having trouble with thinking about what would happen if that indeed happened?
Have a military similar to a volunteer fire department? Silly AcW, thinking the Army is the only branch.

Tell us how your on-call military would work. After that tell us how crack addicts/muggers should be out washing the windows of the houses that they burglarized instead of being incarcerated.

 

[Rusha]

That reminds my of David Gilmour's roadie who used to tell him, "I'll give you whatever color guitar you want, as long as it's black."

Oh. You mean liberty is not about people agreeing to allow someone else to make their choices for them? :think:

I don't believe he understands the word "liberty".

 

[Granite]

I do hate democracy and I'm not a huge fan of the constitution.

At least you're blunt about it. Leave a Christian who claims to love "liberty" to spend time describing his hatred for it.

You and the rest of the would be-ayatollahs are getting more brazen as time goes on. I consider that a good thing.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Oh. You mean liberty is not about people agreeing to allow someone else to make their choices for them? :think:

I don't believe he understands the word "liberty".

At least you're blunt about it. Leave a Christian who claims to love "liberty" to spend time describing his hatred for it.

You and the rest of the would be-ayatollahs are getting more brazen as time goes on. I consider that a good thing.

In Jr.'s hardcore Libertarian days he defined "liberty" as the supposed right to destroy one's life (alcohol/drug abuse, homosexuality, pornography, out of wedlock sex, etc.); it's amazing how much the 3 of you have (or once had) in common.

People of faith believe that "liberty" is being free from sinful behaviors.

 

[Kdall]

In Jr.'s hardcore Libertarian days he defined "liberty" as the supposed right to destroy one's life (alcohol/drug abuse, homosexuality, pornography, out of wedlock sex, etc.); it's amazing how much the 3 of you have (or once had) in common.

People of faith believe that "liberty" is being free from sinful behaviors.

Why do you call him Jr? It makes me laugh every time I read it

 

[Rusha]

People of faith believe that "liberty" is being free from sinful behaviors.

Certainly ... in regards to your *own* life. Wishing to butt into other people's personal lives has nothing to do with liberty.

Now go on ... throw out the extremes that you believe validate your personal bias ...

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Why do you call him Jr? It makes me laugh every time I read it

When Christian Liberty came to TOL he was a know-it-all 18 year old kid still living at home. His original nickname that I gave him was "The Jr. Libertarian", as Libertarianism was the cult that he was avidly following. I've since shortened his nickname to Jr.

 

[Kdall]

When Christian Liberty came to TOL he was a know-it-all 18 year old kid still living at home. His original nickname that I gave him was "The Jr. Libertarian", as Libertarianism was the cult that he was avidly following. I've since shortened his nickname to Jr.

Respect

 

[TrakeM]

In Jr.'s hardcore Libertarian days he defined "liberty" as the supposed right to destroy one's life (alcohol/drug abuse, homosexuality, pornography, out of wedlock sex, etc.); it's amazing how much the 3 of you have (or once had) in common.

People of faith believe that "liberty" is being free from sinful behaviors.

I once had a discussion with a muslim who defined freedom as being free to only choose islam. I think the similarities between the two of you are more than a little disturbing.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
People of faith believe that "liberty" is being free from sinful behaviors

Certainly ... in regards to your *own* life. Wishing to butt into other people's personal lives has nothing to do with liberty.

It's a Christian thing Sandy: "Love your neighbor as you'd love yourself". We hate seeing people destroy their lives and want to do something about it, Righteous legislation is one way of helping others from destroying their lives.

Now go on ... throw out the extremes that you believe validate your personal bias ...

One only need look at our totally messed up society (abortion, homosexuality, pornography, drug and alcohol abuse, etc.) to "validate" my point.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
In Jr.'s hardcore Libertarian days he defined "liberty" as the supposed right to destroy one's life (alcohol/drug abuse, homosexuality, pornography, out of wedlock sex, etc.); it's amazing how much the 3 of you have (or once had) in common.

People of faith believe that "liberty" is being free from sinful behaviors.

I once had a discussion with a muslim who defined freedom as being free to only choose islam.

And he'd kill you if you didn't choose Islam as your religion (so much for freedom).

I think the similarities between the two of you are more than a little disturbing.

Secular humanists like yourself really shouldn't "think", it only gets you into trouble.

 

[Rusha]

It's a Christian thing Sandy: "Love your neighbor as you'd love yourself".

Wishing to execute people for not obeying your religion is in no way loving. It's about control.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

Wishing to execute people for not obeying your religion is in no way loving. It's about control.

Who said anything about executing people (for non capital crimes)?

Sinful behavior takes "control" of people. They're enslaved to sin, sin that as we've seen throughout our society brings nothing but pain, misery and death.

 

[PureX]

Sinful behavior takes "control" of people. They're enslaved to sin, sin that as we've seen throughout our society brings nothing but pain, misery and death.

Usually at the hands of the insanely self-righteous, like you, who imagine it's their job to do God's job.

 

[Rusha]

Who said anything about executing people (for non capital crimes)?

Sinful behavior takes "control" of people. They're enslaved to sin, sin that as we've seen throughout our society brings nothing but pain, misery and death.

Uh huh. Because you care so much about society promoting acts and habits that bring about misery and death, right?

Tell that to the victims who have died from SIDS via second-hand smoke as well as all those deceased due alcohol consumption.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

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Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
Who said anything about executing people (for non capital crimes)?

Sinful behavior takes "control" of people. They're enslaved to sin, sin that as we've seen throughout our society brings nothing but pain, misery and death.

Uh huh. Because you care so much about society promoting acts and habits that bring about misery and death, right?

Tell that to the victims who have died from SIDS via second-hand smoke as well as all those deceased due alcohol consumption.

But but but Sandy, you wouldn't want to take those people's "liberty" away from them would you? (I love it when Sandy goes from one stance to another, i.e. the supposed freedom to do with one's body as he/she or it pleases, but then shows that irresponsible behavior is harmful to others).

 

[shagster01]

And he'd kill you if you didn't choose Islam as your religion (so much for freedom).

As opposed to you and CL who just want to strip us of our basic rights for not following your beliefs. Yeah, that's a lot better.

 

[aCultureWarrior]

As opposed to you and CL who just want to strip us of our basic rights for not following your beliefs. Yeah, that's a lot better.

Don't put me in the same category as Jr., he's into the punishment aspect of Jewish law, not the updated Christian version (repentance).

You might add your former ally Rusha (aka Sandy) to the list, as she is against "liberty" if others are harmed (and others are always harmed when it comes to irresponsible and immoral behavior).

 

[shagster01]

Don't put me in the same category as Jr., he's into the punishment aspect of Jewish law, not the updated Christian version (repentance).

Control by any other name is still control.

You might add your former ally Rusha (aka Sandy) to the list, as she is against "liberty" if others are harmed (and others are always harmed when it comes to irresponsible and immoral behavior).

If others are directly harmed by an action, that's one thing. But we can't get into the butterfly effect here. Every action has both positive and negative effects to it. You like to point out some round about way that my personal life choices in CO are somehow hurting you across the country, and it just can't be done without reaching.

 

[shagster01]

It's a Christian thing Sandy: "Love your neighbor as you'd love yourself". We hate seeing people destroy their lives and want to do something about it, Righteous legislation is one way of helping others from destroying their lives.

In the Bible God gave us free will to not accept his love.

Why won't you follow God's example?