toldailytopic: Has Obama eased or exacerbated racial tension in this country?

This Charming Manc

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Would a white president of being playing the race card is he commented on a case involving a white teenager?

The President of the United States brought race into the politics of Washington when he commented on the Trayon Martin case. :Nineveh: See: Keeping Racism Alive.

Do you think his irresponsible actions might taint the jury pool? :plain:

Christians know we are one race--the human race (Ac 17:26).
 

The Barbarian

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Why is his Black half more important than his White half?

It isn't. It's just the part that has the racists furious. They're frustrated that no matter how they play the race card, he's outsmarted them.

Racism dies hard, and lashes out blindly. But his election is one more nail in the coffin. The Southern Strategy doesn't even work reliably in the South these days, and the Republican party now can't win without it.
 

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Nothing would have made me happier as a moral conservative than to have had an honorable black president in office, but I think Obama has made things worse. Here are the reasons I think this:

His policies smack of taking from one group of people in order to redistribute wealth to another. This is totally against any sort of rules of a free society.

He foolishly jumps into areas where a president should not, and it is totally on the basis of race... a couple of examples: the policeman who finally had a beer with him and the Travon issue. Thus he inflames racial tension as much as Jessie Jackson and other black instigators.

The black Americans/excuse me black African Americans voted for him irregardless of their moral values ... just because he was black and the whole country knows this. Throwing all wisdom to the wind for the color of his skin.

Lastly, I made a friend this spring who supported a moral conservative GOP presidential candidate... and was able to communicate her reasons for doing so. As she demonstrated that she was thinking for herself (an individual involved rather than a group thinker following a leader) and as she became actively involved with publicly supporting the candidate of her choice ... I saw with my own eyes how other black people gave her the finger, shouted out words specifically for her as they drove by in cars, and negatively shook their heads at her specifically for taking a stand using her own moral conscience.

Between Obama's actions and the black people who support his efforts to redistribute wealth for their personal benefit ... things have become worse between the two races.

Dr. MLK, Jr. once said that black and white people would one day come together because of "the content of their character." For many years I have hoped for this to come about and even believed that it would one day happen... but now I wonder. Maybe just the whole country no longer has moral character. Needless to say I am disillusioned with the American people.

Why do I wonder?
Because Obama and his policies and those of the Democratic party have divided our nation ... and I'm left wondering - WHY?????

It has turned me into a bit of a pessimist and a conspiracy thinker... and I don't like this feeling. I want to love America again ... and come together with all moral citizens no matter the color of their skin. I just grieve now, because I believe that black Americans sold out their values just because of the color of a person's skin.

I will add that it was not just the black who elected him ... other races had their reasons ... but as a group ... black Americans jumped on the band wagon ... and now relations have been hurt.
 
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The Barbarian

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Hmm... we need better data than how we feel about it...

I don't think that there's any doubt his election energized racists, in the same way that integrating public schools in the south energized racists. Fear and hatred flared up at what was perceived as an attack on a particular way of life that put whites at the top, and blacks on the bottom.

The surprise is that one of the most encouraging signs of racial progress in our nation’s history, the election of an African-American president, now seems to be deepening our divisions rather than diminishing them. But perhaps that shouldn’t be so shocking either. What the Newsweek poll reveals—and what a review of recent history reiterates—is that Obama didn’t create the misunderstandings and resentments that complicate a controversy like Trayvon Martin’s death. He’s just the spark that sets them off.

In other words, it’s not him. It’s us. Despite the powerful symbolism of Obama’s election, blacks and whites are still living in two different worlds.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswe...l-show-americans-still-divided-over-race.html

Is the solution to keep segregation, because people will cause trouble if you do? Nope. You go forward in spite of the fact. Because a half-century later, you don't see white housewives in Little Rock spitting and screaming obscenities at black kids going to school. That battle is over. Now another one is over. But yes, it "stirred up trouble" as Bull Connor used to say.
 

Ps82

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Hello The Barbarian
You said:
Hmm... we need better data than how we feel about it...

Racism is not based on facts ... but on feelings/ perceptions.

You wrote:
I don't think that there's any doubt his election energized racists, in the same way that integrating public schools in the south energized racists. Fear and hatred flared up at what was perceived as an attack on a particular way of life that put whites at the top, and blacks on the bottom.

I taught school through the integration of the schools in the south. I can speak from living it. I don't think you know everything about it.
Sure it had its ups and downs ... but more ups than downs.

You also wrote:
The surprise is that one of the most encouraging signs of racial progress in our nation’s history, the election of an African-American president, now seems to be deepening our divisions rather than diminishing them. But perhaps that shouldn’t be so shocking either.

I think many people were ready for a black American to be president. It is just ashamed that he turned out to be an political activist, a socialist / and or a communist.

You wrote:
What the Newsweek poll reveals—and what a review of recent history reiterates—is that Obama didn’t create the misunderstandings and resentments that complicate a controversy like Travon Martin’s death. He’s just the spark that sets them off. In other words, it’s not him. It’s us. Despite the powerful symbolism of Obama’s election, blacks and whites are still living in two different worlds.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswe...l-show-americans-still-divided-over-race.html

He should have kept his mouth shut and let the courts deal with the issue. He is a foolish blabber mouth ... and what he says without thinking is what is in his heart.

You wrote:
Is the solution to keep segregation, because people will cause trouble if you do?

No, I'm glad blacks have made progress in our society. I am ready that they take a leadership role in our society. There are a number of black Americans that are attempting to rise to do just that. I truly admire ... Allen West of Florida. I'd love to see him chosen as a VP running mate.

Finally you mentioned:
Nope. You go forward in spite of the fact. Because a half-century later, you don't see white housewives in Little Rock spitting and screaming obscenities at black kids going to school. That battle is over. Now another one is over. But yes, it "stirred up trouble" as Bull Connor used to say.

I say:
You have a problem with southerners and your prejudice is showing. I've in the south all my life, there are many people here who are really nice and are ready to move on. After all every area of the country has its share of stupid jerks. I'll bet a southerner could find a few if he ever visited your area.

The truth is: Things are not better since Obama ... and as the most powerful leader in our nation and the world he had a chance to make it so!
 

The Barbarian

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Barbarian observes:
Hmm... we need better data than how we feel about it...

Racism is not based on facts ... but on feelings/ perceptions.

But how people are changing is based on facts, not on our perceptions of it.

Barbarian observes:
I don't think that there's any doubt his election energized racists, in the same way that integrating public schools in the south energized racists. Fear and hatred flared up at what was perceived as an attack on a particular way of life that put whites at the top, and blacks on the bottom.

I taught school through the integration of the schools in the south. I can speak from living it. I don't think you know everything about it.

Nevertheless, you won't see a re-play of Little Rock, or Bull Connor again. Because some brave people went ahead with what was right, in spite of the warning that it would "stir up trouble."

The surprise is that one of the most encouraging signs of racial progress in our nation’s history, the election of an African-American president, now seems to be deepening our divisions rather than diminishing them. But perhaps that shouldn’t be so shocking either.

I think many people were ready for a black American to be president. It is just ashamed that he turned out to be an political activist, a socialist / and or a communist.

It would be perhaps the first socialist who made his fortune by advising capitalists on how to invest their money. If he's a socialist, he's a rather free-market socialist. ;)

From the link:
What the Newsweek poll reveals—and what a review of recent history reiterates—is that Obama didn’t create the misunderstandings and resentments that complicate a controversy like Trayvon Martin’s death. He’s just the spark that sets them off. In other words, it’s not him. It’s us. Despite the powerful symbolism of Obama’s election, blacks and whites are still living in two different worlds.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newswee...over-race.html

He should have kept his mouth shut and let the courts deal with the issue. He is a foolish blabber mouth ... and what he says without thinking is what is in his heart.

His was an entirely human sentiment. "If I had a son, that could have happened to him." That's a plus in my book.

Barbarian asks:
Is the solution to keep segregation, because people will cause trouble if you do?

No, I'm glad blacks have made progress in our society.

But, as you see, many aren't. I can see you dislike Obama for his politics. But as you might have noticed, there are many in this country who cannot accept that a black man became president.

You go forward in spite of the fact. Because a half-century later, you don't see white housewives in Little Rock spitting and screaming obscenities at black kids going to school. That battle is over. Now another one is over. But yes, it "stirred up trouble" as Bull Connor used to say.

You have a problem with southerners and your prejudice is showing.

These are facts. And they no longer happen because of some very brave people were willing to face danger and even death put an end to it. I think that it's true most southerners didn't approve of the things that happened to blacks, but were afraid to speak out. I also notice that in many places, like Dallas, desegregation ended with little or no violence. But still someone had do to what they had to do to put an end to institutionalized racism. We all owe them a great debt.

I've in the south all my life, there are many people here who are really nice and are ready to move on.

Agreed. And there were some ugly scenes of racism in Boston, and other cities in the North. And that, too, had to be faced and overcome.

After all every area of the country has its share of stupid jerks. I'll bet a southerner could find a few if he ever visited your area.

I live in Texas. For a few years I lived in East Texas. The racism there was likely no less than in the deep south.

The election of a black president is just another step to burying racism. Yes, it did stir up the racists, and cause more hard feelings. So did allowing black people to attend regular schools and to vote. That's how it works.
 

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Obama won the election because of racial tension, not despite it.

Many people voted for Obama because they were bigoted racists that hated white people.
Many other people voted for Obama because they were white people who didn't want to be called bigoted racists.

True.

Obama since being in office has made race relations worse not better and looks like a racist himself.
 

Ps82

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Hi The Barbarian
You wrote:
The election of a black president is just another step to burying racism. Yes, it did stir up the racists, and cause more hard feelings. So did allowing black people to attend regular schools and to vote. That's how it works.

Electing the right black president would have helped bury racism. Obama was not the right guy. Things are worse because of him and the policies of the liberal Democratic Party.
 

The Barbarian

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Electing the right black president would have helped bury racism.

I'd like to believe that. But history shows every advance against racism has "stirred up trouble."

Obama was not the right guy.

I agree with that. I didn't vote for him. Ironically, I voted for Keyes, who probably would have been less offensive to the extreme right, since he was pretty far right himself.

Obama, being a centrist as well as black, was certainly going to be more offensive to many on the extreme right.
 

Ps82

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I'd like to believe that. But history shows every advance against racism has "stirred up trouble."



I agree with that. I didn't vote for him. Ironically, I voted for Keyes, who probably would have been less offensive to the extreme right, since he was pretty far right himself.

Obama, being a centrist as well as black, was certainly going to be more offensive to many on the extreme right.

What is extreme right to you?
Some one who:
believes in marriage between a man and a woman

believes in protecting the unborn from the onslaught of rampant abortion

believes in God - especially our Lord

believes in the constitution to which the president of the USA is required to take an oath to uphold

Just how do you define an extreme right person?

I object to the liberal agenda and to our current president's policies, because I do not believe that they support the things I've listed above. I am law abiding, peaceful, responsible, friendly, and the only semblance to any real power that I have is my vote.

To you, am I an extreme person?
 

The Barbarian

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What is extreme right to you?

People who, for example, dream up absurd conspiracy theories rather than admit a black person was elected president.

Some one who:
believes in marriage between a man and a woman

No. Many rational people accept that.

believes in protecting the unborn from the onslaught of rampant abortion

No. Many rational people believe that.

believes in God - especially our Lord

Obama believes that, and he's a centrist.

believes in the constitution to which the president of the USA is required to take an oath to uphold

Pretty much all Americans believe that.

Just how do you define an extreme right person?

People who, for example, dream up absurd conspiracy theories rather than admit a black person was elected president.

I object to the liberal agenda and to our current president's policies, because I do not believe that they support the things I've listed above.

That seems demonstrably wrong. Obama, for example, seems no less in favor of the Constitution than other recent presidents, and more in favor of it than his immediate predecessor.

I am law abiding, peaceful, responsible, friendly, and the only semblance to any real power that I have is my vote.

To you, am I an extreme person?

Do you honestly think Obama doesn't believe in God?
 

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toldailytopic: Has Obama eased or exacerbated racial tension in this country?



Obama's America: why black grievance will never end
http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/duke/120413

Did anyone see B. Hussein Obama or the Left owned media discussing this incident?

"As has already been reported, Allen was a victim of a vicious racial attack last week in which two older black teens doused him with gasoline and set him alight, saying, "This is what you deserve. You get what you deserve, white boy."

http://www.americanthinker.com/2012..._a_victim_of_his_schools_racist_teaching.html
 
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