Trump holds up LGBT rainbow flag at rally

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The petty conundrum with 'Christians supporting Trump' is ridiculous. Put on your big boy pants and go vote for him if you'd rather have him than Hillary, you aren't getting any props from God if you sit there like a tool. You live in a democracy, take some ACCOUNTABILITY.

That's something I've always realized of many Christians- attempting to be absurdly holy or crucify themselves when they don't get their way.

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Jose Fly said:
It is fascinating to see fundamentalist Christians adamantly support a pro-LGBT candidate.

You use the word "Christian" very loosely Mr. Fly.
Actually, it's THEY who are using the term, "loosely". As they are the ones calling themselves Christians, and then supporting a scum bag like Trump.
 

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Actually, it's THEY who are using the term, "loosely". As they are the ones calling themselves Christians, and then supporting a scum bag like Trump.

Agreed. Many people who claim to be followers of Christ think that because He died a horrific death on the cross for them, that gives them a license to support evil.

They have a very rude awakening when they meet God on their personal judgment day.
 
There are fundamentalist Christians, however, that are not supporting Hillary but are criticizing Trump. You don't have to be a Hillary supporter or heretic to abstain from voting for Trump. A conservative Biblical case can be made for withholding your vote from both major candidates.

Yes, would absolutely agree with your good point and would like to clarify I'm referring to those whose Christianity is a pretense and are on a campaign against Trump. I've yet to see one good fundamentalist I could vouch for working to, in essence, get Hillary elected. But I very much agree with you, do not, myself, see Mr. Trump as the second coming of anything, never sign up for campaign speak in the sense it will necessarily turn to fact, we know them by their fruits, but I can, with metaphysical certitude, see the fruits of the antichrist liberal politician with a track record and know exactly who they are, and who they work for, and it's not the Lord. I do see that, if the alternative is Hillary, the United States no longer deserves to be a going concern.
 

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Voting for Clinton is not the only other voter option. You could vote for a third party candidate. You could write in a candidate. You could abstain from voting in the presidential election, but vote in all the other races. Or you could abstain from voting at all.

Blaming it all on Hillary is just the pathetic justification of liars and fools. Voting for a scum bag like Trump is not a default option. It's supporting a scum bag because you support his bankrupt morality, his bankrupt intellect, and his nihilistic and hedonistic philosophy and behavior. And regardless of the lies and excuses you tell yourself, you will have forfeited both your integrity and your credibility in the eyes of God and man.

This is one of those times in life when you need to stop being an ignoramus and a sheep, and stand up for what you believe in. And if Donald Trump represents what you believe in, then may God have mercy on you.
 

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Yes, would absolutely agree with your good point and would like to clarify I'm referring to those whose Christianity is a pretense and are on a campaign against Trump. I've yet to see one good fundamentalist I could vouch for working to, in essence, get Hillary elected. But I very much agree with you, do not, myself, see Mr. Trump as the second coming of anything, never sign up for campaign speak in the sense it will turn to fact, we know them by their fruits, but I can, with metaphysical certitude, see the fruits of the antichrist liberal politician with a track record and know exactly who they are, and who they work for, and it's not the Lord.

Liar. You have numerous threads and posts denouncing those who tell the truth about Donald Trump and you even go so far as to say that they're paid by the Clinton camp to do so.
 

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They will do anything to avoid recognizing that they have been duped. Their own egos just won't allow that.

It's amazing. A candidate who epitomizes love of money, greed, gambling, lust, pornography, boastfulness, and now as we see embraces the LGBT community....and fundamentalist Christians are lining up behind him saying "Yep, that's our guy!" They're effectively signaling to the GOP, "You can run any candidate, and no matter how much he goes against almost everything we claim to believe in, as long as he has an "R" after his name, we'll vote for him".

Crazy times....
 
Liar. You have numerous threads and posts denouncing those who tell the truth about Donald Trump and you even go so far as to say that they're paid by the Clinton camp to do so.

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And if Donald Trump represents what you believe in, then may God have mercy on you.

What a load of crock, seriously.

Watching men sit there and act like what Trump says is 'so bad' is pathetic. There isn't one male on this site who hasn't had a conversation with or have spoken themselves what Trump says- you're so under that spell of feminist tripe telling you you're bad that you publicly condemn what you, yourself are guilty of.
And women aren't innocent either, they do the same thing. The difference is that, just like Eve had Adam, women have men strung up like fools.

"Oh my, a woman is claiming to have been groped!"
Cry me a river, like the people on TV literally crying about it- what the hell is wrong with yall, seriously :AMR:

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A candidate cannot win by opposing abortion or homosexuality, that's why they are sitting by the wayside now.

Trump is the best choice for this country.
Grow up and stop acting like your uncalled for butthurt justifies robbing people of a good President.
 

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What a load of crock, seriously.

Watching men sit there and act like what Trump says is 'so bad' is pathetic. There isn't one male on this site who hasn't had a conversation with or have spoken themselves what Trump says- you're so under that spell of feminist tripe telling you you're bad that you publicly condemn what you, yourself are guilty of.
And women aren't innocent either, they do the same thing. The difference is that, just like Eve had Adam, women have men strung up like fools.

"Oh my, a woman is claiming to have been groped!"
Cry me a river, like the people on TV literally crying about it- what the hell is wrong with yall, seriously :AMR:

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A candidate cannot win by opposing abortion or homosexuality, that's why they are sitting by the wayside now.

Trump is the best choice for this country.
Grow up and stop acting like your uncalled for butthurt justifies robbing people of a good President.

So much for that whole "family values" thing.
 

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Which I did, and to quote, "It is fascinating to see fundamentalist Christians adamantly support Hillary Clinton by throwing everything but the kitchen sink at her opponent."

Fundamentalist Christians are not doing this,
They are on this website! This thread is a terrific example of exactly that!

in any numbers across the entire land, those here who are ripping into Trump are the usual suspects, some names that even routinely tear at Christianity itself. Others carnal tares of some cult -ism or private religion unknown to man, who couldn't properly exegete scripture, in the religious forums, if somebody put a gun to their head. I would submit to you it's not a matter of punctuation, rather your need to come to the full realization the devil comes as an angel of light, cease to confuse any fundamentalist Christian with the frauds, who are multiplying like rats in these last days. You're being played, and it's not by fundamentalists.

There was a theologian who wrote an article about just that I read a few days ago, apostates who've always been out there, morally confused and acting just as one would expect an apostate to act, while parading as Christian, being mistaken, in large numbers, for Christians, just blind people caught up in some false, carnal gospel and moral relativism, just as the liberal is blind. One is either truly born again or not, and the "or nots" come in more flavors than Baskin Robbins, inside "church" walls. But the not born again is on the same ship as the liberal, dining at the devil's table, on the Titanic. Spiritually blind and dead is spiritually blind and dead, and stupid is as stupid does.

2 Timothy 4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; and they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
None of this made any sense.

What does any of that have to do this election?

And the sentence you're freaking out about was me simply using the same words as another poster on this thread. It's an effective means of making a point. I was simply countering the point made by the person I was nearly quoting.

That point being that if you are attempting to prevent Trump from winning, you are, by default, supporting Hillary Clinton. If you are attempting to cause Christian to stay home and to withhold their lawfully allowed influence on this secular society, then you are supporting Hillary Clinton. The winner of this election is which ever one of Trump or Hillary gets a plurality of the vote (I know all about the electoral college so don't bring that up) and thus no third party has any chance whatsoever and there is no meaningful way of taking some sort of neutral stance, which is a condition I believe that the founders of this nation created intentionally. Whether that's for the better or the worse is a debatable issue but debating it doesn't change the nature of the country in which you live.

Here are the choices you've got.

1. Vote against your biggest enemy.
2. Vote for your biggest enemy.
3. Withhold your electoral influence.

If you choose two or three don't gripe about it when you lose your freedom to gripe about it.
 

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What a load of crock, seriously.

Watching men sit there and act like what Trump says is 'so bad' is pathetic. There isn't one male on this site who hasn't had a conversation with or have spoken themselves what Trump says- you're so under that spell of feminist tripe telling you you're bad that you publicly condemn what you, yourself are guilty of.
And women aren't innocent either, they do the same thing. The difference is that, just like Eve had Adam, women have men strung up like fools.

"Oh my, a woman is claiming to have been groped!"
Cry me a river, like the people on TV literally crying about it- what the hell is wrong with yall, seriously :AMR:

And
A candidate cannot win by opposing abortion or homosexuality, that's why they are sitting by the wayside now.

Trump is the best choice for this country.
Grow up and stop acting like your uncalled for butthurt justifies robbing people of a good President.
Trump has been routinely robbing his contractors by refusing to pay them once the job is done, and then hoping that they will not have the money to fight him in court to get their final payment. And he thinks this is "good business". Robbing people whenever you have them at a disadvantage is just "good business" to Donald Trump. This is moral bankruptcy at it's most obvious.

This is the man you are so adamantly defending, and who you will support to represent you, and all of America next week. And this is why you will forfeit all integrity and respect in the eyes of others when you do so.
 

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So much for that whole "family values" thing.

It was Libertarians and democrats that crossed Party lines (Rush Limbaugh's "Operation Chaos" in reverse) and a few liberal republicans who are responsible for getting secular humanist Donald Trump the nomination.

Scum sinks to the bottom of the barrel; you're getting a good look at it in this thread.
 

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So much for that whole "family values" thing.

The government was never supposed to be a spokesperson on family values. Since when the hell is that supposed to be a thing? Do people want a political leader or a family counselor :AMR:

This is the 1st World's downfall, and they've yet to realize it- making government a dictator.
 
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