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  1. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    Can you then define spiritually separated?
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    Is death just another life?

    If what you've written below is supposed to explain this statement, I'm still not getting it. But see what I respond with below to determine if we're at least communicating on the same plane. I contend that your definition is made in order to rectify a supposed inconsistency, that Adam DIDN'T...
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    Is death just another life?

    Elvis? Of course you are correct, but no doubt there's a reason why He used "sleep" first, then "dead", more than just that He happened to notice they didn't understand the first term's use. And some reason why He never, ever mentioned Abraham's bosom outside of that story. That passage is...
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    Is death just another life?

    What kind of rest does one need in heaven? There's no night there...I kind of thought that meant we wouldn't need to sleep. Physical sleep helps our bodies to rejuvenate and our minds to calm down and sort things out, and I imagine that's not necessary in heaven. I could be wrong. Personally, I...
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    Is death just another life?

    All people are made in God's image. Jesus tells us that means we belong to God. If God decides to kill someone, that's His choice, because He has full authority over us, just like we have over a plant, or a picture on our wall. So God can't "murder" any normal human. The same works for some...
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    Is death just another life?

    Not always: [Jhn 11:13 KJV] Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken of taking of rest in sleep. The term "soul sleep" seems to produce some emotional response. I don't like it, personally, because it suggests there's an actual piece of spiritual material somewhere...
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    Bob Debates a Naked Belizean (by phone, thankfully)

    Technically, you can’t defrock a nudist.
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    Is death just another life?

    I think you took this the wrong way, GD. Clete was showing his respect, kind of like a 2-year-old looking up to his older sister.
  9. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    Don't forget they had some 24 hours, supposedly, to die after eating the fruit. God came to them in the evening, normally, and they had eaten it in the day-time, presumably. So if God made them some leather clothes and kicked them out of the garden by some time within that 24 hours, then it...
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    Is death just another life?

    We've moved on, Clete.
  11. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    Hmmm. I thought souls were immortal.
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    Is death just another life?

    I will move on with an assumption of your answer, based on your one, rather ambiguous, post, and your many, rather childish, posts complaining about having to clarify. I understand if you feel like you've been caught in a trap, but I would prefer that you have an honest conversation with me--and...
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    Is death just another life?

    But I will deal with your points, in reverse order. The first is God putting someone to death after He gives them life--only to give them life later on. Why is this a problem? Isn't that what He promised to Adam? And here's scriptural support: [Deu 32:39 KJV] 39 See now that I, [even] I, [am]...
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    Is death just another life?

    As opposed to setting up strawmen and knocking them down?
  15. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    You answered it. Why not Clete?
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    Is death just another life?

    To my conversation with Clete? How is your question pertinent?
  17. Derf

    Is death just another life?

    It’s not random, and yes, it does. It obviously does to @Clete, since he so obviously wants to avoid talking about it. I’m don’t understand why he’s so afraid to answer the question.
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    Is death just another life?

    Can you at least confirm when I restate your answer? @Clete agrees that "day" in Gen 2:4 means a time period more than 24 hours. You are welcome to acknowledge or call me a liar.
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    Is death just another life?

    And does that mean @Clete believes that the day in Gen 2:4 is more than 24 hours? He is so resistant to answer the question, even though now 2 other people have answered the question for him, I have no confidence that he has actually answered the question.
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    Is death just another life?

    This is well stated, JR. I haven't found much to show internal inconsistency. The best I've found is what I pointed out about what Satan said: "You won't surely die." Satan is subtle, and he mixes truth with lies. If the person never really dies (immortality of the soul is one phrase...
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