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I suppose the Trinity is a presupposition for some, but I’ve tried to debunk it, and I can’t. There is a spiritual body of some sort: 1 Corinthians 15:44 (KJV) It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And there are...

You don't answer my question for my sake?

I already did that. I posted what I thought was his answer, and something that contradicted it. So it needed clarification, which I asked for, here (note that I included the post where I thought he almost, sort of answered it)...

I hated that movie, every time my kids watched it!

Jesus is a person, a human one, at that. He went to heaven. While much of the promise of the afterlife is talking about living on the new earth, I don't see anywhere in scripture that no human ever goes to heaven--and I've looked.

That's exactly what I'm trying to say! The death hasn't happened yet, but it is assured. I]m glad we've come to agreement on this!

And the answer was?

Then “I am” doesn’t really mean, “the God who lives.” It could be some dead god. Once more you’ve shown how confused we all get by talking about dead people who still do stuff while being dead. Yet, there are numerous ways, as offered by several in this thread, to make sense of the term...

Do you still agree with this: Here’s “day” used in Gen 2: Genesis 2:4 (KJV) These [are] the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens, Is that use of “day” 24 hours?

Then you may leave the thread. Your presence here is no longer helpful, if you aren’t willing to ever admit you were wrong.

It’s the best he has to offer.

Maybe I missed it. Would you confirm it for me?

It’s a simple question. A simple yes or no would be much faster than what you wrote.

So you agree that “in the day” can mean something greater than 24 hours?

I’d kind of like to hear it from him.

Thanks. Does @Clete agree with you?

Are you suggesting mankind has always worn clothing?

How long was the day in Gen 2:4?

If they’re willing to put a multi-million year age on something they make themselves, then they could be just as willing to assign a multi-million year age to something that is only thousands of years old. In both cases something exists that needs to be dealt with truly, rather than claim the...

I guess if one rejects the fossil evidence that they existed, one would also be inclined to reject other archeological evidence that some peoples existed, like the pyramids or the ruins of great cities the bible never mentions.