ECT Does Jesus speak to you?

OCTOBER23

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Is Cruciform saying that the Catholic Church is led by a Different Spirit. hmmmm
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What happens when the Catholic Church lays hands on a Real Christian.

Do they get burned at the stake like Wycliffe or Excommunicated like John Huss ?
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John Huss, was a Czech priest, philosopher, early Christian reformer and Master at Charles University in Prague. After John Wycliffe, the theorist of ecclesiastical Reformation, Hus is considered the first Church reformer, as he lived before Luther, Calvin and Zwingli.

Hus was a key predecessor to the Protestant movement of the sixteenth century, and his teachings had a strong influence on the states of Europe, most immediately in the approval of a reformist Bohemian religious denomination, and, more than a century later, on Martin Luther himself.[2] He was burned at the stake for heresy against the doctrines of the Catholic Church, including those on ecclesiology, the Eucharist, and other theological topics.

After his death in 1415, the followers of Hus's religious teachings (known as Hussites) rebelled against their Roman Catholic rulers and defeated five consecutive papal crusades between 1420 and 1431 in what became known as the Hussite Wars.[3] A century later, as many as 90% of inhabitants of the Czech lands were non-Catholic and some still follow the teachings of Hus and his successors.[4]

The Council of Constance declared Wycliffe a heretic on 4 May 1415, and banned his writings. The Council decreed Wycliffe's works should be burned and his remains exhumed. On 6 July 1415, it also declared him a heretic, defrocked him, and had him burned at the stake. Hus' followers soon rebelled; while the Hussite Wars lasted between 1419 and 1434, the Hussite movement spread through Middle Europe. In 1428, at Pope Martin V's command for a posthumous execution, Wycliffe's corpse was exhumed and burned and the ashes cast into the River Swift, which flows through Lutterworth.

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Is Cruciform saying that the Catholic Church is led by a Different Spirit. hmmmm
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What happens when the Catholic Church lays hands on anyone.

Do they get burned at the stake like Wycliffe or Excommunicated like Luther.

That will begin again here below, but not by the RCC alone---

Rev 8:10 And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters;
Rev 8:11 And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.

Rev 9:1 And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit.
Rev 9:2 And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit.

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Mat 24:9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
Mat 24:10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
 

Aimiel

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1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

1 Corinthians 13:9 For we know in part, and we prophesy in part.

1 Corinthians 13:10 But when that which is perfect is come, then that which is in part shall be done away.

You don't even know what the sign gifts were for.
They are for God's Purposes. He gave us 'part' because it isn't time for 'perfect' yet. When it is, He will say so, through His Prophets.

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Your ignorance of The Holy Scriptures is only eclipsed by your own self-image. We have 'part' of His Mystery and will have only the parts that He reveals until He reveals all. When He does, then and only then: knowledge will no longer be necessary; prophecy will no longer be necessary (because all will be fulfilled / revealed). Until then, we have His Gifts, whether you can believe Him for them or even understand them or not. Obviously you can do neither, since you are full of un-belief.
 

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They are for God's Purposes. He gave us 'part' because it isn't time for 'perfect' yet. When it is, He will say so, through His Prophets.

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

Your ignorance of The Holy Scriptures is only eclipsed by your own self-image. We have 'part' of His Mystery and will have only the parts that He reveals until He reveals all. When He does, then and only then: knowledge will no longer be necessary; prophecy will no longer be necessary (because all will be fulfilled / revealed). Until then, we have His Gifts, whether you can believe Him for them or even understand them or not. Obviously you can do neither, since you are full of un-belief.

Amen!


. . . . and God has it this way that we would pursue Him to know Him per John 17:3; to know His ways as any father, desires of his son. That is the reason for His Personal Life in us, who are born again, and His Holy, enabling, Spirit set upon us per Acts 2; 10;19;1Cor.12;1Cor14. ___1John 2.
 

Aimiel

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You only believe you have part. I believe we have all (2 Timothy 3:16-17).
Your belief has just been disproved, yet you deny it. Do you believe that God's Prophets have announced that God's Mystery is finished?

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.

When His Mystery is finished, there will be no more need for knowledge or prophecy or any study. God will reveal ALL. He will open the mind of everyone on earth and anything and everything they need to know about Him will be available to them. How can you not understand that?
 

heir

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Has "knowledge" ceased??!!
the word of knowledge has!


1 Corinthians 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

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1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.
 

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he word of knowledge has!

From the written word, please explain what the "word of knowledge" can only be because the written word fully explains Him.


1 Corinthians 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

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1 Corinthians 13:8 Charity never faileth: but whether there be prophecies, they shall fail; whether there be tongues, they shall cease; whether there be knowledge, it shall vanish away.

In other words, knowledge hasn't ceased that anyone with the Mind of God, as Jesus demonstrated, will also demonstrate.
 

Aimiel

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There are no prophets today.
You just prophesied a lie. You're allowing your members to be used by the enemy to do so. You're a false prophet. You prove your own words to be un-true simply by opening your mouth. God could use a rock to prophesy. He has MANY prophets, right now and will have more and will make use of them however He wills.
 

Aimiel

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From the written word, please explain what the "word of knowledge" can only be because the written word fully explains Him.
A word of knowledge is when God speaks to someone to reveal a spirit or thought or simply a motive behind someone's action. He might let us know that someone is NOT from Him and so we are able to take what we hear from them the right way (reject it, in other words). He might let us know that we need to read our Bible or pray or change lanes on the highway. It's God who gives gifts and they operate as He wills.
 

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A word of knowledge is when God speaks to someone to reveal a spirit or thought or simply a motive behind someone's action. He might let us know that someone is NOT from Him and so we are able to take what we hear from them the right way (reject it, in other words). He might let us know that we need to read our Bible or pray or change lanes on the highway. It's God who gives gifts and they operate as He wills.


Happens everyday. It is called discernment, one of the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Ever had to your mail read to you; your life explained to you, future revealed; personal business that only you and God know about? I have.
 

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You just prophesied a lie. You're allowing your members to be used by the enemy to do so. You're a false prophet. You prove your own words to be un-true simply by opening your mouth. God could use a rock to prophesy. He has MANY prophets, right now and will have more and will make use of them however He wills.


AMEN! Furthermore, it is those who understand that and act upon it that will soon be caught up to return with Him when He returns in clouds of Glory!
 

heir

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You just prophesied a lie. You're allowing your members to be used by the enemy to do so. You're a false prophet. You prove your own words to be un-true simply by opening your mouth. God could use a rock to prophesy. He has MANY prophets, right now and will have more and will make use of them however He wills.

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