To the NAACP, certainly.
NAACP leader outed as white
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To the NAACP, certainly.
Mocking You
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The NAACP leader is outed as white?? :crackup: Sounds like a story from The Onion.
It's a curious thing when we live in a world where a man can announce that he's female and be celebrated as courageous and a woman can so heavily identify with a minority race as to desire to project it upon herself and she's a villain.
What's really different about the two?
What's really different about the two?
GFR7
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None that I can see.
Presumably a biological basis for one and not the other.
How do you mean? Some sort of chromosomal business? Because back in her family tree I'm sure enough there's shared origin and so far as I know Jenner has the expected masculine biology.
I'm not familiar with these subjects but if sexual attraction has some basis in biology then perhaps gender identity could as well. I don't really understand that though, if that's the argument. I haven't read much about Jenner so I don't know what his reasons were for thinking he's a woman and wanting to change.
What I find interesting with transgenderism is that it seems to rely on gender roles and stereotypes that I thought progressives are supposed to reject. If you're a boy that likes girlie things then just be a boy that likes girlie things, why try to become a girl that likes girlie things?
But the first is speculation so far as I'm aware. No gay gene forthcoming at present and the last I've read indicates a general thinking that it may come down a number of contributing factors.
So it comes back to his feeling and assertion and the disparate responses to it contrasted with the woman in question, who on the face of it has more reason to find affinity with a common biological set of ancestors. Yet her manifest desire is labeled deceit and she is put in the worst of lights while he has a magazine cover and a celebratory note.
It's a curious blind spot to be sure.
I suppose it's possible that the internal identification is so strong anything short of having it externally validated is a bit like an itch under a cast.
GFR7
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:thumb: Absolutely my own opinion. Infuriating hypocrisy on the part of these progressive ideologues.
...except being black isn't her true self, which is the entire point. One you seem to have completely missed.
There's no comparing the two at all. Jenner was honest, and Dolezal's apparently an inveterate liar.
Mocking You
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There's no difference between females of different races. There are differences between men and women. How much courage is required to wear dark makeup vs. dressing up as a different gender? I'd say not much.
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Why isn't Jenner a liar? He isn't a woman, but considers himself one. Black is how she identifies, sees herself.
If so it's not much as distinctions go. One self opinion is celebrated, one we denigrate. Why? Would we feel differently if she had to have a surgery?
Strange outrage and stranger dismissals from the left.
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Insofar as lying, everyone knows who Jenner is and that he was born a man. His only deception would be to himself. There was no intent to fool everyone around him. I haven't seen him claim that he was born a female.
The woman claimed to be African American and the daughter of biracial parents. The only reason this came out is because her parents outed her.
The fact that she was willing to lie about her biological parents is why I see the actions and intentions differently.
He's famous. Who wouldn't know him? But you could argue that what he's doing now is advancing a lie.
Sure. She wanted to pass for the thing she considered herself. She invented a lie to cement it. That sort of thing happens all the time, only most people lie smaller. They puff their IQ, or test scores or how successful their businesses are, how great their mate is and on and on.
To me it's only degree and a function of desire. The root appears to be the same and the result is arguably not much different.
