Arthur Brain
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I believe in free speech as well and it's pretty clear you are as bonkers as CS is given how steadily you dismantle as your post goes on.
Nerdy? Eh, that's a new one.
Oregon takes couple's kids away because of IQ test
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I believe in free speech as well and it's pretty clear you are as bonkers as CS is given how steadily you dismantle as your post goes on.
Nerdy? Eh, that's a new one.
glorydaz
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I believe in free speech as well and it's pretty clear you are as bonkers as CS is given how steadily you dismantle as your post goes on.
Nerdy? Eh, that's a new one.
Well, I'll give you libs one thing. You do like having the last word. You waved byebye and said you were outa here, but you clearly have a lack of self-control.
So, let's just pretend like I'm "dismantling". :thumb:
Arthur Brain
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Um, ya, that was on another thread if you were keeping track and have I responded to your last little 'retort' on it? No, no I haven't.
:e4e:
glassjester
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There were no charges of neglect or abuse - intentional or otherwise.
It's as if they're being charged with future-crimes... which isn't a thing.
Arthur Brain
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I'm not saying there have been. I can understand the concern, but I'd sooner there was regular monitoring to see if they can cope as parents given the demands that parenting brings as with any similar situation.
glassjester
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I agree - monitoring may be warranted. But immediately taking the child away? No way. When the government can do that, and get away with it, it's way too powerful.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
Admitting you have a problem is the first step toward recovery
In your case, it's prolly the first stagger toward recovery :thumb:
Because of an IQ test? Instead of that they should have observed the child. Is he being properly fed and clothed. Is he being schooled like he should be. Are his basic needs being met? IQ tests are notoriously unreliable.
Yes, and what about the frontier days etc. when IQ was low everywhere?
ClimateSanity
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I'm completely bonkers for this post eh? It's an educated guess. Look at the things progressives have done in a half century. If someone has predicted those things back in 1950, he would be labeled bonkers too.
I'm glad I won't be here in 50 years
glorydaz
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Yep. There are things being done today that weren't even thought of fifty years ago. There is an exponential increase in knowledge and everything is moving at a faster pace as the end days draw near.
Daniel 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
thesocrates
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Damn thats crazy. The deeper issue is who gets to decide whether someone is an eligible parent or not.
glassjester
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The government does.
However, I think a jury of the parents' peers should be the ones to decide that - by deciding if the parents are guilty of neglect.
Obviously a plot against people likely to vote republican.
glassjester
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If a parent's low IQ is, itself, sufficient cause to remove children, then shouldn't the state check the IQ of new parents?
It's an interesting and difficult question. We know that IQ is mostly a matter of early childhood environment. So having low IQ parents is a kind of sentence to lower IQ than would otherwise be achieved. My thought is it is somewhat like having parents who are physically disabled.
The appropriate response in that case would be for the state to see if there were programs to help such as outings, opportunities to activity, and so on. There's no reason why the state couldn't do the same thing for enrichment.
And no one's rights would be abridged in that case.
The appropriate response in that case would be for the state to see if there were programs to help such as outings, opportunities to activity, and so on. There's no reason why the state couldn't do the same thing for enrichment.
And no one's rights would be abridged in that case.
glassjester
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All 50 states already provide free education to every child for at least 12 years.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
on the father;
reading between the lines, i see an old man, tired from watching his wife die of Alzheimers, tired of having to deal with the irresponsibility of his daughter (iirc, he and his wife took most of the responsibility for raising the daughter's first two children)
and i don't get the impression that he's any kind of genius either
reading between the lines, i see an old man, tired from watching his wife die of Alzheimers, tired of having to deal with the irresponsibility of his daughter (iirc, he and his wife took most of the responsibility for raising the daughter's first two children)
and i don't get the impression that he's any kind of genius either
I agree.
Why be concerned if no neglect is taking place????